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January 03, 2008

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Karen

To the Americans posting here-with a few greatly appreciated exceptions.
Stop It!!

Do any of you have even the most basic knowledge of the world outside whatever little berg you're from? Could you find Iraq on a map? Do you know that Iraq is the
ancient and sophisticated country some of you might have once heard of-Mesopotamia? Do "the cradle of civilization" OR "fertile crescent" ring a bell? This is the area where civilization, law, mathematics, writing and astronomy among other handy little things were born. I won't go through all that we owe Iraq culturally but maybe you could Google it and stop acting like we are SO superior.

Who are we to tell Iraqis about the separation of church and state when we have a president who thinks that God made him president and gave him the charge to bring Jesus to the world, whether they want it or not AND a Republican presidential candidate who has stated that he wants to rewrite the Constitution to conform to the Bible?

THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION LIED US INTO THIS WAR. Anyone who was paying attention (yes, all 12% of us) knew it was a pack of lies. Abu Musab al Zarqawi and his people (what the Bush Neocons called al Qaeda) were in the Kurdish area-in the northern no-fly zone, under our protection, not in Baghdad. We knew that even though Saddam was a terrible guy he was no friend of Osama bin Laden. He was a secularist! He was terrified of religious fanatics. He knew what this could degenerate into. We knew that he had nothing to do with 9/11. Bush knew that Saddam once had WMD because we sold them to him. The U.N. inspectors said that they had no proof that he still had them and no reason to believe that Iraq had a nuclear weapon (remember that "mushroom cloud" that was supposed to scare us?? Never existed.)

Anyone know that Iraq had one of the most educated citizenries in the area? Full of doctors, lawyers, college professors and engineers- that women had access to higher education and could hold high level jobs and political offices? They seldom dressed in the extremely conservative garb they now have to wear.

Stop acting like you're some kind of missionary bringing enlightenment to the rest of the world. We have been doing some extremely stupid and greedy things for quite some time. THE REST OF THE WORLD CAN HANDLE THEIR OWN AFFAIRS WITHOUT OUR IGNORANT INTERVENTION. WE NEED TO GO HOME AND MIND OUR OWN BUSINESS. I APOLOGIZE PROFUSELY TO ALL IRAQIS FOR THE DEATH AND DESTRUCTION WE'VE CAUSED! WE HAVE MADE YOUR COUNTRY WORSE THAN IT WAS BEFORE AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX IT.......WE, AND MILLIONS OF OTHER PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD DEMONSTRATED TRYING TO STOP IT. I AM SO SORRY JENAN.

annie

Jenan, I am so touched by your post. personally, and i am just speaking for myself, i fear the choices we make in the coming election, even in the primaries, do not really matter because enough of us are voting on electronic machines that can be controlled quite easily, it only requires manipulating a certain portion of our votes to control the outcome. i know many people fear/believe this.

the good news is the current maniacs in power (sorry mr anti bushbasher i'm afraid you will have to fast forward a few centuries for your dreams of what is 'last year' to materialize) will be gone and the chances of anyone as sadistic as cheney being in power are nil. there is a very strong likely possibility whoever is in charge here in the US will be an improvemnet to the current criminals, how much of an improvement is yet to be seen for the america is like a junkie and iraq is sitting on top of our oil.

lets just hope we work on lessoning our addiction and our policies are more geared towards what's best for iraqis instead of what's best for military industrial complex.

thank you for the incredible service you provide and know that there are americans who know iraqis are full living breathing loving valuable human beings. i am very sorry indeed.

i think about iraqis everyday. you are in my hopes and dreams.

Linda Morselli

I can only say that I pray for peace in Iraq everyday and as a mother my heart aches for everyone that is there. For the people of Iraq, the mothers and fathers, the children, the grandparents and all of the soldiers both Iraqi and American. Please know that there are americans who are trying very hard to end this. My husband and I are working very hard on a Presidential Campaign for Dennis Kucinich. He is the only Democratic Candidate who did not vote for the war and has never voted for funding the war. He is a man of true Peace. He wants to end this war. I am trying my best to get the word out about his campaign. I am going to send your blog article to everyone I know. From this side of the world, my friend, I send you my prayers and peace.

newfreeguy

MADTOM
How do we suck LESS than the others? Is it because we travelled half around the world to invade a sovereign state for no particular reason? Do you really believe that the US went to war to "free" the poor "enslaved" Iraqis? Just like that - just to lend a hand? Come on!
And you mention "others". Who do you mean? Are you comparing the US administration with Saddam - for instance? Or who?

dp

Linda, your words are well intentioned, I'm sure. However, I hope over time you will think harder about them and come to see how wrong-hearted they actually are.

I hope that you are happy and well.

dave

linda spurlock

Everyday, the first thing I read is the daily round up of violence. Truly, how Americans vote will affect you greatly. However, your country men and women need to stop this daily killing of each other. IEDs, suicide bombings, rockets, bodies found daily; some beheaded. This is one iraqi killing another iraqi. Until, these gang like murders stop; you will have no safety. Do you trust your police? Do you report violence or fear religious leaders and the cycle continues.

shhango

Peace to you Jenan.

madtom

If only Iraqis would really pay that much attention to their own country, as they would like up too. Really, why did they wait 25 years to start to look around the world at other countries elections. You would at least think that at a minimum, they would be appreciative that we, evil as we are, give them the chance to read any news, or information, about us or anyone they might wish to pay attention too. I know, we suck, but at least we suck less than others, you could do worse

sami adm

iam so glad to read your blog jenan you are the sound of all iraqi people yes go and tell the american to be carfull in their choise it will effect our future and may be the ward future also

Dr.Qasim

iam iraqi phisician i see every day the bad effects of the war on my comunity and i think its your respocibility to change all that by chosing the peace not the war special thank for jenan

Amanda

My husband is deployed to Iraq. I never thought about how our choice here would make such a big impact there. Shes not saying to pull troops out or leave them there. What shes saying is to think about what choices we make here in the US and how it will effect Iraq whether that be pulling our troops out or leaving them there. Although my husband and I are 8 months into our 15 month deployment, i know hes making a difference as well as all the men and women there are. I still dont believe that difference is worth the life of any human, nor do I always believe invading Iraq was the right reason, I still believe that when someone asks for help, we should do our best to give it, and that I believe in doing in my very own everyday life. There was another post that I was reading where it was stated that the woman can now drive through a part of Baghdad that was once deserted because of all the attacks, that it is now hussling and busseling with people. I would love to have my husband home with me and our son every single night keeping us safe in our home, but some people choose to give more then others to better the world and that is a sacrifice my husband makes as well as all the people around him who love him so much.

Amanda

My husband is deployed to Iraq. I never thought about how our choice here would make such a big impact there. Shes not saying to pull troops out or leave them there. What shes saying is to think about what choices we make here in the US and how it will effect Iraq whether that be pulling our troops out or leaving them there. Although my husband and I are 8 months into our 15 month deployment, i know hes making a difference as well as all the men and women there are. I still dont believe that difference is worth the life of any human, nor do I always believe invading Iraq was the right reason, I still believe that when someone asks for help, we should do our best to give it, and that I believe in doing in my very own everyday life. There was another post that I was reading where it was stated that the woman can now drive through a part of Baghdad that was once deserted because of all the attacks, that it is now hussling and busseling with people. I would love to have my husband home with me and our son every single night keeping us safe in our home, but some people choose to give more then others to better the world and that is a sacrifice my husband makes as well as all the people around him who love him so much.

Mark

This post should just say "Please vote for a Democrat who can pull troops out of Iraq who so increased bloodshed can occur and then we can proclaim that that person 'wants peace'"

You people who think yanking troops out of there or if we had left Saddam in place that Iraq would be great and noone would die need to share the LSD. I could use some.

Binh

Someone posted this in my blog with no link and I stumbled across it by mistake. Unfortunately, none of the Democratic front-runners (Obama, Edwards, Clinton) have pledged to end the war and get out of Iraq. I've blogged extensively about their double-talk on the issue.

C.H.

We can only hope that the situation in Iraq will improve. All signs are looking up, but Al-Qaeda and the other terrorist thugs are determined to destroy Iraq's stability and force everyone to submit to their extreme ideology.

C.H.
www.unitedworldforpeace.blogspot.com

Mohamed Ezzat EL_Hadedy

first, i need to thank who wrote this article. becuase i like to appear our life now need strong desicion from the american people. we don't hate America , we just have some problems with the politicis of american authority, so i hope american people , feel arab countries is not enemy, but we are friends

all young and humans in arab and islamic countried respect the american dream

all people love american people but hate wrong politics descision which cause problems between people in different culture

finally, excellent articles

jenan

Dear commentators
It's me again Jenan
I'd like to say thanks for all who support me ... Really you give me a hope.
thank you

jg

I am not insulted by the post; I'm embarrassed by the first response to it (LS). The self-righteousness, arrogance, ignorance and pure selfishness of it are deeply saddening, and all too characteristic of American narrow-mindedness at its worst. As a nation, we're too often reminiscent of Daisy and Tom in "The Great Gatsby," who greet the havoc they've caused by simply retreating back into "their wealth and their vast carelessness." If we are worthy of being a great nation -- if we have the sense of responsibility as a people that all us would hope to exercise in our daily lives and to instill in our children -- we should bow our heads in sadness and shame before the havoc we so dunderheadedly inflicted on Iraq, and recognize that our fate will necessarily be entwined with that wounded, struggling, unhappy nation's for a couple of decades to come.

Nancy Youssef

Jenan: This is a beautifully written blog, and I think anyone who reads will stop and think about the decision before them in the ballot box. Thank you for posting it. I am so proud and honored to know you. -- Nancy

Dr BLT

I'm glad you haven't done what so many others have done. Engage in mindless Bush-bashing, and blaming of the US for all the problems in Iraq.

This is refreshing. No Bush-bashing! After all...

Bashing Bush is so Last Year
Dr BLT
copyright 2008 Right-wing Records
http://www.drblt.net/music/BushBashDemo.mp3


Robin Upton

When I came to Iraq from Saudi in the early '70s, it was such a breath of fresh air.But it was beginning. My friend, a doctor, warned me not to say anything political indoors or in his car, all bugged. But it does matter which US party wins. No, Democratic pols do not care about the Iraqi people. They care about their American constituents. But the Democrats are not Bush, Cheney nor Rumsfeld. It makes a difference for us, and it will for you. The US military is like all military, yours included. They are not, indeed, the Peace Corps with guns. Get them out.It will be bad for you, but in the end, maybe you can make things better. Only you can fix this mess now. I can only hope that you can be brave.

linda spurlock

It does not matter if we have a democrat or republican in the white house or who is elected to congress. We, as Americans, must vote on what is best for our country. We have made a mess in Iraq. Now what? We have thousands of high paid contractors training police. We have military training military. Under Saddam, Iraq was a dictatorship; nor civil rights or freedom of speech. The country was proud to see him dead, but need now to establish a self-government chosen by the Iraqi people; not America. America/Americans need to take care of America; God knows we have enough problems over here to take care of. Or is that it? Has the government went and started a war so we don't look at the weakening dollar, everything is imported, umemployed, illegal immigrants and so on. If we stayed home, and protected are on borders, we would have no time to interfere with other countries. I used the word insulted wrong; I felt this person was stating that since we made a "bad" choice the last election; he was trying to imply vote democrat this time. What I as trying to say was that the party line really doesn't matter. We will be in your country for years to come; unfortunately.

Susan

I don't feel insulted by what Jenan said, I feel dismay. I don't not see the US politicians concerned at all about what happens to the Iraqi people - they only see Iraq in terms of how it impacts America. And since the politicians are in the pockets of the multi-national corporations, that means they will do what those multi-national corporation wants..... control Iraq's oil via US military presence in the country.

As to "mistakes" the US authorities supposedly made - there were no "mistakes" - they did it on purpose. They wanted to destroy Iraq and divide the Iraqi people.

And the US military is not some branch of the Peace Corps that happens to carry weapons. Their job is to kill America's enemies. America sent them off to kill and destroy people who are not our enemy and were never any threat to the US. It is not their fault that they have become extortion rackets for multi-national corporations (some of those corporations are not even American ones!).

I see little change with the upcoming elections, although the Democrats seem to be somewhat better managers and diplomats.

jeannie

I don't feel insulted and I don't think that anyone should feel insulted however, I do feel extremely guilty that we have a complicit Congress who seem to go out of their way to keep this "war of unnecessity" going on and on and they are doing it in my name.

That seriously ticks me off.

aric in america

My government replaced a brutal police state with a dangerous power vacuum and now idiots like linda spurlock wonder what went wrong. Like newfreeguy said, before our invasion none of the things plaguing the Iraq people now were there before. Has anyone here heard of the concept of a self-full filling prophecy? Those in power in 2003 kept saying that Iraq was a terrorist hotbed...it wasn't then but it is now.

I don't believe in any Gods but I do believe things come back to you and I am wondering when all the death and misery inflicted upon Iraq will find its way back to our (America's) shores.

phil martin

Unlike the first commentator, I am not insulted, but instead feel a strong pull toward responsible and reasonable action. Now, I will not be voting in today's Iowa primary. My turn will come in February. But I've been listening to the political back and forth among candidates on both sides, and I must say I've heard an awful ot about the sacrifices our troops are making. I've heard nothing about the sacrifices the Iraqi people are making.

It doesn't take many people to create chaos, confusion, and bloodshed. I can't blame the Iraqi people as a whole for what's going on, anymore than I can blame everyone in my city for the crimes that are committed here.

But I feel very frustrated with the Iraqi government. I feel very frustrated with my own government, which has badly mishandled the whole occupation up to this point. My wish is that my nation will withdraw more intelligently than we we entered.

I appreciate this blog very much. Our traditional media has done a poor job of letting us know what's going on in Iraq on a daily level. For the next eleven months, Iraq will take a back seat to the 2008 election. Please keep this blog going so that those of us who strive (yes, strive--it takes effort) to stay well informed will have a reliable source of information.

God bless you and keep you this year!

newfreeguy

There was no civil war in Iraq. There was no sectarian strife. There was no Qaeda. There was no "approximately one million killed in four and a half years". And there was no freedom of speech.
Enter: the US of A and the absolute opposite picture becomes their new reality.
No wonder our image is rolling down hill at high speed. And it's people who are so rightious, like you, who are at the bottom of America's problems.

linda spurlock

I find just about everything you said above insulting. Should America leave Iraq, absolutely. Tomorrow would be soon enough for me. But are you be aware that you are in a country in an extreme civil war fueled by extreme religious factions, much like mafia/gangs around the world, but kill in the name of a religion which is better than the others and must become the only excepted belief system. As long as Iraqi are willing and wanting to kill other Iraqi to further these extremist groups, you will have no peace, you will no have no future. Your government cannot control these religious groups because if they did, the iraqi people would turn on them. In your country, you cannot or willnot separate religion from government. A government should respect all religions within its country, but should not be controlled by any. This a concept, that does not exist in muslim faith countries, with a very few exceptions. I will vote, you rest assured on that, but I will vote for the person who will work with our congress to better my country and the standard of living from my children and grandchildren. I again, want to say, we should leave Iraq immediately, but the major terror organizations of muslim faith want your country for their training grounds. Can you stop them on you own or would any other muslim country help you?

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