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August 14, 2008

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Ms. Missive

I think it's absolutely possible that the cameraman could have been mistaken as a threat. Mistakes happen. Accidents aren't strangers to any nations military. I realize that punishing the tank crew for a mistake is reasonable (which I secede should have happened) but the Israeli investigation of the matter was correct... they did not intentionally attack an unarmed member of the press.

Yisrael Medad

"Never"?

1.
May 2008
An IDF spokeswoman confirmed a strike had been carried out against militants who had fired an anti-tank missile at troops, moderately wounding a soldier. The soldier was evacuated by helicopter to the Soroka Medical Center in Be'er Sheva.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/986333.html

2.
January 2008
An IDF soldier was moderately injured from an anti-tank missile fired at IDF forces a short while ago. An additional four soldiers were lightly injured in the attack and the five were sent to hospital to receive medical treatment. The IDF forces were operating in the central Gaza Strip
http://dover.idf.il/IDF/English/News/the_Front/08/01/0601.htm

3.
December 2002. An IDF Engineering Corps soldier was moderately wounded and two civilians were lightly wounded when an anti-tank missile that was launched toward civilian targets on the Israel-Egypt border near Rafah, struck nearby them. The three were transferred for further medical treatment to Be'er Sheba.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb6465/is_200301/ai_n25816852

That took me 4.5 minutes to find.

And this:

The Russian-made antitank missile Metis-M9 is returning to the battle field – this time to the Gaza Strip Posted in November 1st, 2006
http://noisyroom.net/blog/2006/11/01/the-russian-made-antitank-missile-metis-m9-is-returning-to-the-battle-field-%E2%80%93-this-time-to-the-gaza-strip/


Medium-range missiles are capabel of a range of 4 km.

Dion, enough or do you want more?

Yisrael Medad

sorry. capable

carlos townsend

buenos,

tx 4 the update.

as far as im concerned the idf fails the smells like, looks like test.

godspeed.

los

Casey

I am still baffled at journalists' naive assumption that just because they are media, they are immune in a combat zone.

It is a COMBAT ZONE people. Friendly fire incidents happen all the time, so you are always taking a life and death risk.

That risk gets compounded when you point a black shoulder mounted unit towards a tank.

It's a sad accident, but war is hell.

Yisrael Medad

Will Dion comment on this from today:

GORI - Four Israeli journalists, including Haaretz correspondent Anshel Pfeffer and photographer Nir Kafri, were robbed at gunpoint by Russian soldiers in the Georgian city of Gori on Thursday.

None of the Israelis was injured in the incident, which occurred as a number of foreign journalists gathered near a Russian checkpoint stationed at the entrance to the city. The Russian troops opened fire on the journalists without warning, trying to disperse the crowd.
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or this:

A Dutch journalist was killed and another wounded after a fragmentation shell exploded outside a press centre where western reporters in Gori, including The Daily Telegraph, have been based since the conflict began. An Israeli reporter was also in a serious condition after being shot in the chest and shoulder. Russian fire has now claimed the lives of three reporters in the past three days.

Despite claims by the Georgian government, there was no sign of Russian ground troops in the town, although the artillery assault suggested that they were probably only about two miles from the outskirts.

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and there was a previous incident from which, I can only presume, journalists didn't learn the lesson on taking precautionery measures, especially when carrying video cameras and even more so if on tripods aimed at a tank:

"Italian journalist reported killed by Israeli tank fire Dan Milmo MediaGuardian, Wednesday March 13 2002

An Italian journalist working for the Corriere della Sera newspaper has been killed in the West Bank town of Ramallah, according to Palestinian hospital officials.

Raffaele Ciriello, a freelance journalist, was killed by Israeli tank fire this morning,"

and this:

"He and two other journalists had been trailing a group of Palestinian gunmen near a refugee camp where fighting between Israelis and Palestinians was taking place"

with this

"In the wake of these incidents, RSF has published a safety charter for journalists working in war zones and other dangerous areas, urging editors to adopt and observe its principles. The charter, drawn up by a range of organisations including the World Press Freedom Committee, UNESCO, the Council of Europe and the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), aims to reduce the risks under which war reporters work.

The charter comprises eight principles, including urging the media not to force journalists to cover wars against their will and to offer psychological counseling if requested."

Does Dion think that it is normative IDF policy to go after journalists? That out of hundreds of reporters in Israel and over thousands who have been here over the past decade alone, that these incidents are minimal in comparison to other war zones in the world?

Gary Rosen

Yisrael, Dion is lying out his ass and he knows it. He just wants to stay in good with his JO buddy Kuntar.

Edie

Blaming the victim.

Not only Dion, but so many other independent, international organizations have concerns about how this whole fiasco was handled.

Yes, Israel has followed up on some investigations into crimes, but there are just as many other cases of deaths and mutilations by the military have either gone unpunished or under-punished such as in this case.

Regardless of what people wish to think, journalists should have a minimal expectation that if their vehicles and persons are reasonably marked as 'Press' or 'TV', even in a perpetual, 40 plus year old 'military zone' that a supposedly well-trained soldier would give them the benefit of a doubt before firing. IDF members are too use to getting away with what they want with the 'sub-human' Palestinians.

May Fadel Shana rest in peace along with the other, young VICTIMS of this crime.

SiberianRat

"...the camera mounted on a tripod for several minutes was 'most likely' a weapon of some sort." It was: It was a weapon of truth, exposing the Israeli brutality. Israel doesn't like when that happens and this is not the first time they've killed journalists, peace activists, etc. They don't like when the truth gets out.

Yisrael Medad

Edie, the amount of Israelis in general and Israeli soldiers in particular who hold a view that there are " 'sub-human' Palestinians" is much much less than there are antisemites who disguise there hatred of Jews in a setting of "antizionism". It isn't a great comfort but that's a fairer way of looking at things.

Gary Rosen

Is that "Edie" Amin?

Seymour Paine

Some people hold Israelis to a different standard.

Edie

Seymour,

I don't think Israel is held to a 'different' standard so much as simply to a very high one. One reason being that the Israelis themselves have long defined themselves as being of a higher standard: superior moral values, superior military training, a high respect for human rights and justice - and this is incredibly admirable.

This self-definition though leaves the nation open to a higher expectation. If Israel were like other nations who don't give a crap about world opinion and just admitted they were created through ethnic cleansing and rule (occupy) with a harsh and brutal system akin to apartheid, then I think the world would still hold them to international law and standards, but might not be so quick to point out the hypocracies that abound when it comes to how Israel deals with the Palestinians.

And no Gary, it's not 'Edie' Amin, you ignorant. His name was spelled 'Idi' and sometimes 'Edi'. Get a better analogy.

Tina

There is also the problem that most reporting coming from Gaza and Southern Lebanon is by people who actually live there and are affected by what is going on politically. I can't see how anyone could believe that they are objective. A so-called reporter could easily be firing rockets just as easily as taking a photo. Since it's my kids who are on the receiving end I want to be sure it's photos. Perhaps if you were on the receiving side, Dion you'd feel differently.

Derek Dylan San Joaquin

If it had been a shoulder-fired missile, that Israeli tank would have been obliterated. Note that it is only about a second before the tank projectile hit its target, that is about the same span of time the tank could have been hit had it been a missile fired instead of a camera shot. The thing is: there is hardly enough time to make clear discernment under the circumstances. The Israeli tank crew was clearly impelled by their instinct of self-preservation as I cannot see why a camera crew should be targeted. It is undoubtedly unfortunate but a reasonable reaction given the surrounding circumstances.

Brian K Mcclung

Right on.

I think the real cure to anti-semitism is a very simple one.

The jews are no better or no worse than any other group of people, and no more above or below criticism than any other group of people.

They are human beings, like everybody else.

In addition, Christ may have been a Jew, but I doubt that raises all Jews to some higher plain.

But you must understand, that one of the main recurring themes throughout the Bible, if not the main recurring theme, is that to be against Isreal is to be against God.

And that is terible obstacle to overcome, and I doubt I will see it in my lifetime.

Brian K Mcclung
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Seymour,

I don't think Israel is held to a 'different' standard so much as simply to a very high one. One reason being that the Israelis themselves have long defined themselves as being of a higher standard: superior moral values, superior military training, a high respect for human rights and justice - and this is incredibly admirable.

This self-definition though leaves the nation open to a higher expectation. If Israel were like other nations who don't give a crap about world opinion and just admitted they were created through ethnic cleansing and rule (occupy) with a harsh and brutal system akin to apartheid, then I think the world would still hold them to international law and standards, but might not be so quick to point out the hypocracies that abound when it comes to how Israel deals with the Palestinians.

Dave J

Regarding Edie's defamatory remark about 'sub-human' Palestinians, it is accepted and promulgated routinely in Arab society and official government organs that Jews make matzah using blood. Scholars have noted that the intellectual heirs of nazi antisemitism reside in the Arab world (almost exclusively).

Edie

I just have to say that I've studied, travelled and lived in the Middle East off and on for the past 25 years and I've never read in any publication or heard in any conversation that 'Jews make matzah using blood' except at Yad Vashem (The Holocaust Museum) where it is mentioned that this is a common anti-semitic claim that was used in Europe at the height of anti-semitism before WWII.

I would think that if this vicious, racist idea is 'accepted and promulgated routinely in Arab society and official government organs' that I would've run across it at some time during my journies, research or interactions with people.

I think though, that many outside this area do believe this ascertion - which is rather racist in it's own right.

No, I am not saying that racism or anti-semitism does not reside in the ME, but I do think it's a smaller factor than many would like to believe. I think a larger factor is policy and governmental actions and as in the case of Shana, inaction.

JOHN L.

Im sorry for his families lose, but after all, it is a war zone.....people are killed there everyday; journalists are not immune to death. Reuters is the responsible party,they force their media staff to cover these wars, and look what happend. Now they want to blame it on someone else,the IDF is doing their job. Get real@!!

Edie

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
(Edmund Burke)

or apparently believe it is 'normal' or part of someone's job.

Also, no one has mentioned that these individuals were killed by flechettes. A weapon that is not to be used in urban or areas with a high concentration of civilians, such as the Gaza Strip.

This alone should have warranted an investigation, let alone the death of so many civilians, including children.

Dion Nissenbaum

I am on vacation, so obviously not blogging as much. I plan to write more about this incident in future posts, but here are a few points to consider:
1. The IDF notes that Fadel had been filming for several minutes, so the tank crew was not making a snap decision.
2. The IDF has yet to offer support for its contention that anti-tank missiles with the range necessary to hit the tank have been used in Gaza. We have been asking for a week now for evidence. Anonymous sources on the Debka file does not constitute proof.
3. The IDF calls itself the most moral army in the world. That is not something imposed on it from the outside.
4. If Palestinian journalists are to be deemed non-objective because they live in the area they cover, does that mean that Israeli journalists are also non-objective because they live in the area they cover?
More to come...

Wesley Parish

Isn't it one of the most central concepts of justice that no one be permitted to be the judge in his own case? If so, that should surely cast the almost-instinctive "Israel-Firsters" in a different light.

You've got an interesting problem, Dion - I myself have argued with "Israel-Firster" Jews, and one of the staffs they use to beat the Palestinians is the undeniable existence of clan solidarity in Palestinian society. I think the unadmitted existence of Jewish clannishness is as big a problem in the Israel-Palestine conflict - or should that be Ashkenazi clannishness? (Ask Yemeni Jews about the stolen Yemeni children.)

As it is, the denial by the IDF of justice in this case, also means that this incident will not be closed off. That's one of the purposes of justice - by bringing all matters of dispute out into the public eye, disputes and crimes can be undeniably solved and finished with.

People will still be pointing to this case of murder by the IDF twenty years, fifty, two hundred years from now, the way Jews still refer to Kishinev, Maine, etc. Because the function of justice which is to limit the effects of disputes and crimes, has been stifled.

Cincinnati7

The IDF has excellent intelligence sources, hidden cameras, etc., and probably knows just about every square meter of the entire region, including where newspeople are.
Far too many innocents have been killed or seriously wounded by their forces, there can not be so many "accidents." I'm sure the tank crew had top quality lens to see and aim over a good distance; their killing was almost certainly unjustified.

Yisrael Medad

Dion has raised some points which need discussing but his last point has been dealt with already. Just ask the spirit of Danny Pearl about problems Jewish, forget Israeli, journalists face.

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