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Laura

Thank you for the excellent column, and for all the work done at the time. This deserves, though, a larger forum that the Nukes and Spooks blog site. It's time for a front page editorial. Please.

Murican

Stroebel and Landay are greater than Woodward and Bernstein. The malfeasance and misfeasance of the Bush administration and its operatives dwarfs any that could even be dreamed of by the Nixon administration. You guys were the ones to call bull on it and you will go down in history for it!

oldfaithless

You guys, almost alone, have done a terrific job in exposing this administration's deceptions. Congratulations!!
It is utterly mystifying that anyone is getting excited about McClellan's "revelations." Only the most gullible believed anything he said in office; why pay attention now?

barrisj

Early in the (first) Bush administration, the K-R WashBureau was my bookmarked go-to site for the REAL NEWS, and kept me and like-minded people well ahead of the curve during the propaganda assault preceding the illegal invasion of Iraq...time and events have proved the K-R/McClatchy team spot on with their assessments. Carry on your superb work in actually understanding - and executing - the role of a so-called free press!

david

>i am a disabled veteran from the vietnam war...and not suprised by scotts revelations from his time in the white house. the biggest problem is that these individuals in high responsible positions should not lie so blatantly. it destroys trust and democracy expecially when the president claims to live on a higher moral plane.

RandyT, USN Ret.

We now have well over 4000 American troops killed, a record number of troop suicides, hundreds of thousands of Iraq citizens killed and trillions of dollars spent, so can we agree it is time to stop the madness?

Thank you McClatchy for some honest news.

Maureen

During the 2000 campaign, I vividly recall Sam Donaldson saying that if George Bush wins the presidency, we could count on the U.S. attacking Iraq as payback for Daddy Bush. At the time, I thought Sam was being dramatic, but when the topic of Iraq first came up, it brought that comment back to me in frightening clarity. You're right; this is really old news. One can only hope that hearing it this time around will teach people a lesson about being sheep and why dissent is the definition of being American.

Persona non grata

Golf clap.

Rev. Sharpstick

So when is your book coming out, and what will be the cover price?

felix random

when bush elevated osama from a common criminal to the head of a stateless state (no borders to defend, consequently undefeatable) it was obvious that he wanted a permanent war. not a soul noticed, the media bent over and took it and said thank you.

rupert murdock won. he had at that point successfully discredited journalism in america to the point that any lie would do. s.o.p. for him.

the real driving force to invade iraq was the rich aging male's fear of impotency, which is what scott missed. can you say neo con........

y'all didn't miss much but your voice was successfully suppressed by simple omission. rove really did take his major lessons from goebbles intimidate, marginalize, and when ever possible evaporate, anyone who was not fanatically devoted.

thanks for the flat extraordinary effort, it fends off the self serving emptiness masquerading as reporting every time i drop in

geoff

Truly amazing. I hadn't realized that you had stories back as early as Oct/2001.

jrw

A remarkably restrained column, given the great work done by K-R and McClatchey over the past 5 years. Of course, notice how McClellan's charges of media complicity and cowardice are not part of the discussion we read, see and hear from the media outlets whose failures helped get us where we are. When you generate the news, it's a safe bet you won't be part of the coverage.

Steve J.

Your reporting on Iraq and the war on terror has been superb and I only wish I had begun reading it well before the invasion.

bdd

Sorry, but those stories you trumpet at the beginning of this piece were posted in 2004 and 2005, a day late and a dollar short. Our free press is certainly not free and rarely, it seems, capable of performing it's role as the eyes and ears of the populace. We're now relegated to commercial hacks touting the corporate line, careful not to stir up trouble. The only "news" is in the sports pages...

bdd=morelies

bdd why lie?. Click the links - they start at Oct 2001.

V W House

I agree with the last comment by Laura: This excellent review should be more widely circulated. I have come to rely most on your coverage, that of NPR and, though I think it less credible, the NY Times. The rest are in the military-industrial-media complex, complicit in a social disaster. Thank you for your professionalism.

spud

My deepest thanks for your reporting and for real journalism.

Carly Corday

It is news when a former press secretary busts out to confirm all of this. Stop denigrating Scott McClellan! It's exactly what the murderer in the oval office wants you to do. And boy, are you ALL doing it, led by the shallow, pewling likes of "Dances With Rove" David Gregory.

It IS news. Knock it off, damn you all. You're turning potential harmony in the fight against the monsters into cacophony that resolves NOTHING--OF COURSE--it's what you do. The noise keeps us all off balance, as intended.

Charles Lumia

Interesting article.

While I don't know exactly what Scott McClellan said in his book, I have of course been reading articles about it and speaking with people on the issue.

I don't necessarily consider him a trustworthy person, for many obvious reasons; the main being that I don't see how someone can sit idly by and lie to the American people as he did, only to later come out with a book. It's clear that he wants to profit from the situation.

Not that it matters. As you stated, it's clear that many people were misleading the American people, and from the very beginning. Why and how exactly is up for debate of course, but there is no doubt that it happened.

My issue now is that we are in Iraq, and I don't feel that it's an acceptable action for us to abandon the Iraqi people in their time of need. After tearing their country apart, it wouldn't be right to leave them to fend for themselves.

That is of course controversial, many people feel that we should leave Iraq immediately. I think that it's mainly because they are being blinded by partisan politics. I personally am independent and have never been associated with any political party, so I feel that I haven't been corrupted, if you will.

Why I'm bringing this up is because it is very likely that this book, and anything that comes of it, is only going to lead to more support for the withdrawal of our troops from Iraq. And I honestly care about the people of Iraq.

The Iraqi people didn't do anything wrong. They had a crazy leader, and then we just barge into their country and remove him, kill him, and now we want to leave their country in a huge mess.

It isn't right. We have to help and support the Iraqi people.

showze

Biggest moral challenge facing America...is will Bush and Cheney be held accountable?

if not then America is a completely narcissistic society.

Kansas gal

Clark Hoyt? What a name from the past. We miss you in Wichita but are glad you are a part of one news organization that has tended to get it right!

CPH

Unfortunately, though, despite your professionalism you will be taken down with the rest of the press who cravenly misrepresente the truth, lied to the public and buckled under to the pressure generated by the administration's propaganda department.

Emily Stewart

From: Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/05/tactical-woundedness.html

Thursday, May 29, 2008
Tactical Woundedness

I was just mulling over the response of the White House and former associated figures over the past 24 hours, and realized that there is a phenomenon, used in the past by this and other Administrations, which can be culled out, newly defined, that I shall call "Tactical Woundedness":

Tactical Woundedness: The use of an apparent sense of betrayal, often portrayed through the use of euphemistic insinuation, such as the word "puzzled" and "this isn't the ----- we knew", that is meant to serve as a form of indirection--to draw viewers of an event away from a damaging factual disclosure and towards an implication of personal disloyalty. This relies on the known effect of people to be influenced in the direction of attending to interpersonal conflict over factual inaccuracy--even when the factual inaccuracy may have a considerable impact on their own lives.

See also: Mock outrage; Captain Renault in Casablanca: "shocked, shocked".

If these individuals are indeed wounded, it is more likely an understated wounded pride at their "misunderestimation"--that such a receptive servant of the message, no doubt hired for his unquestioning fealty, would now actually remove the curtain from the proceedings that they expected that he would obediently continue to conceal.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/05/tactical-woundedness.html

Frank

The man was a twit when he was on the job and is a twit still. Now he writes a book telling people what they already know and they run off to buy it.

For him to try and come across as some kind of after market visionary is ludicrous. He was/is part of the problem, not the solution.

His proceeds from his book should go to the survivors of those we have lost in Iraq (that would show he really has a conscience, instead of playing it up for his book).

Canario

Now we are starting to know and understand the extent to which this administration deceived the American people with all of its rhetoric regarding the war on terror.

As important as that knowledge is, it is also essential we learn why,- in a country that spends so much money, and uses so many resources in intelligence programs-, we were not able to prevent that attack.

We heard the many explanations and rationalizations from Bush and his team regarding our failure to doing so. But knowing what we now know on the manner this people operate I just no longer believe their excuses.

It would be healthy for his nation if we are clear on the reasons why we failed and hold those responsible accountable

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